Monday, October 8, 2007

Right Wing Rudy Take-down


Of Republicans Would Vote for Pro-Life Third Party Instead of Giuliani

That 27% number keeps popping up.

It's the hard-core Bush-love Jebus-praising closeted-torture-loving one out of four fetus worshipers who it seems just don't have any love for the adulterous pro-abortion pro-gay New York liberal racist 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 Tourette‘s syndrome icon, Mr. Rudy "my wife & I always talk on the cell phone since 9/11 even through the surgical staples" Giuliani.

Praise the Lord.
Rasmussen Reports

A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that a three-way race with Hillary Clinton would end up with the former First Lady getting 46% of the vote, Giuliani with 30% and the third-party option picking up 14%. In head-to-head match-ups with Clinton, Giuliani is much more competitive.

Electability is a crucial issue for Giuliani because two-thirds of Republican voters seen him as politically moderate or liberal. That is a challenge unto itself in a political party where most primary voters consider themselves politically conservative. Fred Thompson is currently viewed as the most conservative candidate in the field.

Three of the last four Presidential elections have seen a candidate win with less than 50% of the total votes cast. If Hillary Clinton wins the Democratic Presidential nomination, there is a very reasonable possibility that neither major party candidate would top the 50% mark in Election 2008. With such a scenario, third party candidates on either side of the political spectrum could play a significant role by peeling away one or two percentage points of the vote.

It gets worth for his 9/11-ship. Oh yes oh yes, it gets worse...

What A Right-Wing Challenge To Rudy Would Mean

As I wrote on Sunday, the evangelical movement's version of the Stonecutters held a super secret meeting on Saturday during which they apparently "decided to consider" supporting a third party challenger in the presidential race if Rudy Giuliani becomes the Republican nominee. Family Research Council's Tony Perkins, who attended the meeting, tried to pushback a bit on that story on Monday's Hardball:

This was more of a proclamation of principle, rather than a declaration of intent. There`s no desire to run a third-party candidate. But there`s been a line drawn, which I think most pro-life conservatives are not willing to cross.

But today, in a New York Time oped, Focus On The Family's James Dobson confirms that that line they decided to draw was indeed between their support and a Rudy Giuliani presidency:

The purpose of the gathering was to discuss our response if both the Democratic and Republican Parties nominate standard-bearers who are supportive of abortion. Although I was neither the convener nor the moderator of the meeting, I'd like to offer several brief clarifications about its outcome and implications.

After two hours of deliberation, we voted on a resolution that can be summarized as follows: If neither of the two major political parties nominates an individual who pledges himself or herself to the sanctity of human life, we will join others in voting for a minor-party candidate. Those agreeing with the proposition were invited to stand. The result was almost unanimous.

Or as TPM puts it:
Talking Points Memo

27% of Republican voters would rather vote for a third-party Christian right candidate in a general election than vote for Rudy Giuliani — and that's in a three-way race with Hillary Clinton.

The hypothetical three-way race shows Hillary with 46% support, Rudy at 30%, and the third-party conservative with 14%. Among self-described pro-life voters, Rudy gets only 36% support, with the third-party candidate at 29% and Hillary with 23%. Not just that, but Rudy gets only 25% of pro-choice voters, with Hillary still walking away comfortably with 65%.
  • If these numbers hold up...
  • If Dobson runs a third-party candidate
  • Giuliani loses 2-3 conservative votes for
  • Every 1 socially liberal independent vote he gains.
To win, he'd have to flip-flop, swing HARD right, except the right will never trust him.

The right at that point has their anti-abortion pro-torture candidate. The true heart of the country has the Democratic Party. And Giuliani gets smeared.

Oh, people are just getting started. Couldn't happened to a bigger turd.

“Jiffy Pop, bitches!”